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Original RV Wiki Spammed

http://www.rvwiki.org/ has been the victim of the same spamming this site has. An administrator should go in and delete all comments from "scofco", too much work to delete them all manually. You can, of course, delete this talk entry after.

P.S. thanks for the ANR review (which is what directed me to the site originally)

Referencing Original Sources

Here's to the success of this wiki filling in information gaps. In addition to attribution by posting author, I'd recommend that where known, the wiki community make a habit of referencing the original source (factory manual, specific gov reg, personal experience, etc). I'd like to be able to separate "weblore" from fact, testing or user experience and be able to refer back to the primary sources myself. That's not to say that govt regs or factory manuals are the last word, knowledge evolves with operational use. It's just that bad information repeated often enough (circular reporting) takes on a life of its own. The issue that highlighted this to me was a Yaklist discussion that cast doubt on the origin of some widely quoted CJ-6 airspeed limits. I'd have rather known their basis/source up front.

Thanks to all who are making a go of the wiki; I'm new to wikis, so any edit/format buffoonery is not meant to cause offense. RichR

So far the structure of the wiki is by aircraft type. That will make sense for many articles, but I'm sure there will also be many articles of a more general nature. For example, one of the first things I wanted to post was an article on a fly-in I'm helping to organize.
I recommend having the main page be a very high-level index with headings such as:
  • Aerobatics
  • Aircraft Types
  • Engines
  • Engine Types
  • Events
  • Formation Flying
--Tedd 21:27, 15 March 2006 (PST)
I certainly don't have a problem with that. I expected that we would have information that would cross aircraft-type boundaries. That is why I added the section on engines.
BTW, why would you have a separate section for Engines and Engine Types? seems to me that you would have, under Engines, sections for specific engine types but also a general section on engine systems, e.g. induction systems, ingnition systems, hot-rodding, conversions, etc.
--Brian

Engine Types

Brian:

You're right, "Engine Types" would probably go under "Engines."

Can we put an index (similar to what I suggested above) right on the main page? I've been submitting articles to wikis for a couple of years now, but I find a main page like this one intimidating. I don't know where to start adding stuff. I'm sure novice wiki users will be completely intimidated by it. Dwight and I found, with the RV Wiki, that "seeding" with links to blank pages was one of the most effective ways of generating content.

--Tedd 09:56, 16 March 2006 (PST)

Community Portal

I think what has happened is that the community portal page has become the main page. I just banged out the welcome letter inviting people to contribute and that got put on the main page. Gus added the link at the top to the community portal page. I agree that we should probably do a better job of organizing this. And, no, I am not married to having my letter be the first thing people see. If you think there is a better way then by all means implement it.

I also think that the community portal page is getting too large and unwieldy. I would probably break it down and create sub-pages. Perhaps the top-level Community Portal should have something like:

  • Matronics Lists
  • Aircraft Types
  • Engines
  • Electrical Systems
  • Avionics
  • Fuel and induction systems
  • Hydraulic Systems
  • Legal, Licensing, Legislation

Just an idea to break things up into more digestible chunks.

--Brian

Hybrid Option

I'm thinking that perhaps the "Main Page" should have a links section at the top, followed by a Welcome message at the bottom...?

--Matt 18:45, 16 March 2006 (PST)

I think that makes perfect sense and I am not sure we really need the welcome letter all that much. The information stands on its own.
Navigation is key. Things should be where people expect to find them. Nothing is more annoying in a web site than not being able to find the information you are looking for. So many web sites are beautiful ... and useless. Let's make sure that the order and structure are such that people can find what they want.
So, are we agreed in general? If so, let's add a top-level TOC/menu on the main page. I think that the list I put above is a pretty good start. We explode the major headings on their own pages.
Let's converge and move forward.
  • Matronics Lists
  • Aircraft Types
  • Clubs
  • Engines
  • Electrical Systems
  • Avionics
  • Fuel and induction systems
  • Hydraulic Systems
  • Legal, Licensing, Legislation
  • Aerobatics
  • Formation
  • Air Combat Maneuvering
  • Training
--Brian 2006-03-17 0652Z

Moving Forward

I've been focused on transferring content from the RV Wiki. In the process I have made some changes to the structure, particularly the Community Portal, but I haven't yet tried to implement any of the ideas discussed above. I do intend to implement those ideas, though, and I'm thinking at the moment that it might be a good idea to do that before moving the rest of the RV Wiki material.

--Tedd 14:59, 15 September 2006 (PDT)